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# Jude Kamal
Environmental Design, 2014. Co-founder of By Three Design
Graduation Year2014
KeywordsFaculty of Design
Environmental Design
> I started off in many different places, working for people that didn't have the same alignment as me, and that really wasn't what I was planning to do with my life. So I thought of what scared me the most, and that was starting my own business.
**Why did you choose to attend OCAD U?**
OCAD was the only school that truly spoke to me when I was looking for schools to attend, I just felt like I belonged there.
**Please briefly describe your current job / practice.**
Currently, I wear many different hats, I have started my own design practice called By Three Design with a friend of mine, Charlotte Rauchberger, from OCAD. We get to design what we're passionate for; interiors, graphics and branding. Also I teach art and taekwondo to kids, which I find soulful because I get so inspired by them. My days are pretty hectic, but that's how I like them!
**How did you get started in your career?**
I started off in many different places, working for people that didn't have the same alignment as me, and that really wasn't what I was planning to do with my life. So I thought of what scared me the most, and that was starting my own business. I ignored the idea, then thought again, ignored it, then thought about it again and again. At that point I decided to do that thing that scared me the most, and I am doing it. I can't stand the idea of working for someone else, and it drives me insane to know that I am building someone else's dream rather than my own. It wasn't easy, I had to work hard to establish a good foundation. I like listening to people's passion and interests so one thing lead to another and I became involved with amazing people. But mainly I would say, once you step out of your comfort zone everything unfolds in crazy ways.
**Did you volunteer or work in your field while you were a student?**
During my years in OCAD I did a couple of internships in interior and architecture firms, as well as volunteered for the Toronto General Hospital as a way to give back to my community.
**What were your policies regarding internships, volunteering, and paid work?**
Personally, I do not think students should work for free, even though I did it once at an interior design firm I interned at. Students have a lot of stress already from school, their daily lives, probably their part time jobs and expenses they have, the last thing they need is an unpaid internship that takes up a lot of their time for nothing in return. Yes, you learn, but it is not worth it.
**What do you enjoy most about your work? What is the most challenging aspect of your work?**
That everyday is different, and that means everyday is a new learning experience. I like challenging work because the moment you do it and get a project done, you look back and say wow I can't believe I did it! That's such a great feeling.
**What skills or relationships developed at OCAD U helped you participate in your field? Is there anything you would have done differently?**
Mainly my profs, I was a very talkative and active student in all of my classes, so the profs remember me pretty well. I always was curious and eager to see what they did and how they did things, and so I asked tons of questions. My profs were my mentors and I loved all of them - they are amazing. I would not change one thing or do anything differently than I had already done.
**What are the key responsibilities you maintain for your practice?**
First off, without having a passion for what you do, you will get nowhere. Passion motivates you to research to find more information about what you're passionate about, and it definitely brings you a step closer to where you are meant to be. I do believe that passion without hard work is useless, so you need to always stay on the look out for industry news and new innovative ideas. For By Three Design I have to always be in the know of great designs, to be aware of what is happening in the design world, and surprisingly I must always meet new people. If projects don't come to us, we go out there and try to get them.
**What are your personal and professional goals for the coming years?**
My big goal is get to design something that positively impacts our world. I would like to get my business, By Three Design, to grow and to hopefully be able to direct all my energies towards it.
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